from: Sheh Mureed
To: balochi_culture@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thu, March 11, 2010 12:09:49 PM
Subject: [balochi_culture] Balochi Word
Waja Ameeri and Dear all
Can any one help me baloch word for COMPITATION normally we use Mukabela which is not a Zagreen Balochi.
Regards
Mureed
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From:
Fatema Al-Balooshi
To: balochi_culture@yahoogroups.com
There is no word as COMPITATION in English that I know. If you mean COMPETITION = Mukabela (مقابله). To mean face to face, or challenging each other. Munafesa (منافسه) is one word you can use. If it is a debate, then you can use Munthera (مناظره). Both are Arabic words.
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From:
mumtaz ALBALUCHI
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competition I think =HAMSARI..
ANCHO KI GAUSHANT TAW GON MAN HASARI KANE =YAKE FELANI A GON HAMSARI MAKAN.
May be there is another word I hope someone find better word for it.
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From: Ismail Amiri
To: balochi_culture@yahoogroups.com
Dear all,
I use " Grohtaachi " for competition .
Ismail
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From:
Saqib Jawaid
To: balochi_culture@yahoogroups.com
i would agree with Waja Ismail and would also recommend another word "Baj"..
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From:
Fatema Al-Balooshi
To: balochi_culture@yahoogroups.com
I think HAMSARI from Wjah Ismail, is perfect because it sounds like a pure Baluchi word.
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From:
Noutak Baloch
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Hamsari, equality, companionship, fellowship
hamsari kanag, emulate
Ameeri
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From: Ali Raisi
To: balochi_culture@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sat, March 13, 2010 9:11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [balochi_culture] Balochi Word
I have heared also in warning tones the word: sarpasari. Or Sarpasari kanag.
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From: Fatema Al-Balooshi
To: balochi_culture@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sat, March 13, 2010 7:58:18 AM
Subject: Re: [balochi_culture] Balochi Word
I think: Sarpasari, means: One on one, face to face, Arabic (تحدي), it stems from an angry feeling, or more like a: English (duel), (challenge)
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From: Ali Raisi
To: balochi_culture@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sat, March 13, 2010 3:48:46 AM
Subject: Re: [balochi_culture] Balochi Word
There are also several kinds of combined words for this, but I think the Balochi has more precise words for each type of competitions such as duels, wrestling and power of the powerful men and women: such as: MEDDAG, MEDENAG, DEM PA DEMI, OR DEM PA DEM BAYAG...
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On 13 March 2010 16:02, Dr Lalzad wrote:
Muchana Salaam.
In our area(Neemroz Afghanistan) when a small person consider hemself equel to a big and powerfull one GUSHANT: AE GON FLANI A HAMSARI A KANT. ke aish yak wad ae shagam e.for competition we use the word of (SIALI).
For competition the Farsi word is( MUSABEQA)
DR.Lalzad Baloch
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On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 4:36 AM, shastuni baloch wrote:
Although 'chakkaas' means to test/ examine/ assess, it has been used, by some people, as suggested in my previous post for 'competition' . competition and testing are of course two different words, but they are very closely linked together. Besides, there are many words with different meanings used in different context.
Another word, though not a formal one, is 'jopt dayag' or 'jopt daaten' (jopt=joft). In Shastun region (Saravan, since 1928) of West Balochistan (Iran), this is used when there is a competition between e.g. two people running against each other (sport). Please remember that 'jopt' is not a verb, but 'jopt daaten' or 'jopt dayag' is a phrasal verb for some kinds of competition as mentioned here.
Balochi mai wati naam o neshaan ent!
Shastuni
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From: Ameeri Baloch
To: balochi_culture@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, March 15, 2010 10:05:50 AM
Subject: Re: [balochi_culture] Balochi Word
Waajah Shastuni is right the word jopt or jutk dayag used in Balochi for competetion in classical poetry.
Such as a poet siad after Mir Hammal Kalmati's death.
Hammal e mark a say o chaar cheez a gal kutag,
greyshag e sheyraan gal kutag kouhi paarchinaan, Aa diga maradaan ke haps ish jutkaa taatkag ant.
Ameeri
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From: sheh.mureed
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 00:11:54 -0700
Subject: Re: [balochi_culture] Balochi Word
Waja Ameeri
Salamat batee
ee shaira taha Jutkee mana Competition naent , ee mardee haps sawariyee tauseefa kant kee yakeen mardoma yakeen wahda 2 Haps Jutka tatkag . Mani hayalan Sayed Hashmi ee loz MARDAN GEESHEE pa competition a washterent. shumayee shuro salahani rahchaar.
Regards.
Mureed
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From:
mumtaz ALBALUCHI
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WAJAHAN ;[MARDAAN GAISHI] agan copemtition gaushag beeth GUD AGAN JANIN ADAMANI COMPETITION BIBEETH CHI GUSHE [JANINANI GAISHI] MANI HAYALA MARDAAN GAISHI HAM ZABR NA INTH ANGATH BECHARE JWAN BEZANANTHE.
I THINK HAMSARI IS CLOSE TO COMPETITION.
SHUME.
MUMTAZ
